Anyone have any good horse racing systems?
Anyone have any good horse racing systems? … Looking for a good horse racing system. Free preferably!
Can a horse actually count back 18 days to when it last won a race, does it actually know that it has a top jockey on board, that it has won over the distance and that its price is not higher than 4-1…if it does then punters need have no fear, okay I'm only half jesting, the trainer will see to most of these things, apart from the price, but most racehorses do not run to form and in the UK some trainers will have a particular race in mind for the horse and maybe run him at a couple of unsuitable tracks or on unsuitable ground to get his weight down in a handicap contest, and it can pay to know who is in with a chance and who isn't.
Back in the real world there are no sure fire systems guaranteed to come good on a regular basis and you will eventually end up giving all your money back to the bookie.
Do your own research into the horses breeding, check which distances the sire and dam won over and go to your local track on a regular basis and watch the horses in the paddock, they are extremely quirky and will often be sweating up, or bolt to post. They may not like the racecourse that they are racing on that particular day or the going may be to soft or firm for their action.
Only by watching will you pick up on these things and the newspapers and tipsters are a complete waste of time, your guess is as good as theirs.
Try starting with a particular trainer and follow his string of horses for a year either over the jumps or on the flat, you will soon see a pattern emerge and certain horses winning on certain courses, but it is a slow and sometimes costly process and there are few professional punters who can boast a living out of systems.
Enjoy the racing, it's a great day out and where else can you go to a sporting event and possibly come home with more than you went in with.
Work out your own systems.
The basic rule is: small stakes and the possibility of large returns.
One possibility is this simple system (designed for UK racing):
1) look for a horse that is in the top 3 of the Official Ratings (OR) for each horse in the race (note: some races have horses without an OR rating, sometimes because they haven't raced enough yet to get an OR, in which case avoid the race).
2) It must be trained by a top trainer, or it must have a top jockey on board.
3) Must be at least 15/1 (check price on Oddschecker)
4) If more than one qualifier in race, back 'em all.
Now 'paper trade' the system, and see how it does over a few days.
Richard, I'd have to say with the combination of all of the above three answers you now have a horse racing system. Actually, with all kidding aside, I have to say Sandra S. has nailed it. It does depend on the type of race, stake or otherwise, where different systmes should be considered. It is hard to judge a horse racing system unless you test them. Every system has it's ups and downs. Every system will bring some amount of risk, or even great results but, keep in mind the really good systems take calculated risks, and have been proven to be successful over time. Last year there was a question regarding all the Breeder's Cups races, and who we thought the winner of each race would be, Sandra S. nailed all but two races and in those two the horses were still in the money, that is impressive & says a real lot, and I'm sure not only skill played in the factor but some luck too. So, bottom-line no one can insult ones system. Best to find your own handicapping method through trial and error as we all do.
And, finally, all the answers are great answers, I got something out of all of them, all by great people who took the time out to help you.
Below are some 'general' rules, and not always the case..more for everyday betting/racing rather than in high stakes races. There are exceptions to all systems & rules.
~ The horse MUST have WON its last race within 18 days.
~ The horse MUST have pro jockey in the saddle.
~ The horse MUST have won over the distance that it is running over current race.
~ No bet if the horse is quoted at 4/1 or higher in the morning paper.
( Not sure where you're asking from but,I live in USA). As a handicapper for many years, there are no magic handicappers or formulas I promise you, the above rules do help and, I can help you get on your way with knowledge… YOU first must know how to understand race horse handicapping. Assuming you don't..your will definitely need to know how to read a horse racing form. Handicapping is a skill in which one gets better with time, and with time your skill will still continue to grow. I've been handicapping for years and still find new angles. When making picks, I first handicap the race, I look at each horse's performance under prior racing conditions that most matches the conditions of the track and race that day. This information is usually in the program. I use the The Daily Racing Form (DRF) and is a great source on-line and is usually on sale at the track, this form is designed to provide all of the past performance information, as well as articles, analysis, and handicapper picks and tips. Keep in mind, The Daily Racing Form has an incredible amount of information entered into a small space, so abbreviations are used, and columns are used. It's not as confusing as you would think. Once you're familiar with reading the Information properly, it becomes very easy. The bottom line is to seek for clues to predict the winner of the race. Most importantly, handicapping is taking all of the available information, combining it all, and analyzing the horses. The more information you utilize in your picks, over time you will better your chances of having winning tickets. It is, of course, NOT guaranteed that you'll always have the winner, you're dealing only with probabilities and possibilities, because Horse Racing is very unpredictable, anything can happen at any time and it usually does, so if anyone promises a guaranteed pick, don't ever believe it, for it's impossible. I enjoy horse racing, however, I only bet on certain races, mostly the High Stake Races. I do it for fun, and manage my money wisely. I'm very active in helping race horses, trainers and owner, and the Industry, so it's more than a betting game to me. I love it, and I'm not in it for the gamble. Always remember there is NO Guarantee in anything ! The odds on a horse are a good indicator of where the horse is expected to finish (a horse with 2/1 odds has a better chance of winning than a 30/1 horse, but the 30/1 horse is a much better payout, however, if you want to play it safe, look for a horse with at least 3/1 odds). Other factors to take into consideration: When did the horse run its last race? Experts say you want your horse to have run a race within the last 28 days to be sure it’s in good shape. How many horses are competing? Obviously, it’s a lot harder to pick a winner when there are a lot of contestants in the race. What does it say on the horses form? If there is a C, the horse has won on that track before. If there is a D, the horse has won on that distance before. These are both good bets. These are some tips, however, there's a whole lot more to handicapping, and it's a skill that takes time and the learning never ends.
Good Luck To YOU ! And, MOST IMPORTANT Have Fun !!!! 🙂
If anybody has got a good system, do you think they would give it away, after probably spending years and good money trying to develop it? In this game you have to be your own man (or with deference to Sandra -woman) but to set you on your way I can recommend reading Nick Mordin in the Racing Post Weekender every Wednesday. Of course the systems do not all work but it is a mark of genius to come up with tested new ideas every week and I am sure that by reading him you will get some idea of what to look for and to see how many angles there are and how much there is to learn. You will also benefit from retaining the previous week's results on a regular basis to compile a form book.
Great answer Sandra, but here are a few notes on your rules. A new bettor should check out the website http://helloracefans.com/ . It gives plenty of tips and "how-to" for the new horse player, including how to read a racing form, etc.
Rule 1. The horse MUST have WON its last race within 18 days – many horses, unless they are claimers don't run 18 days apart. It isn't uncommon for a horse to run only once a month or less, especially stakes horses. Using your method over the weekend, you would have missed cashing a ticket on Girolamo (last raced 9/4/10), Life At Ten (last race 8/29/10), Lookin At Lucky, Zenyatta, etc.
Rule 2. The horse MUST have pro jockey in the saddle. Using this method, you would have missed out on winning rides by Tyler Baze, Joe Talamo and Paco Lopez as well as previous apprentices Martin Garcia, Raphael Bejarano and Julien Leparoux
Rule 3. The horse MUST have won over the distance that it is running over today. – This is a good idea for older horses, but one should take pedigree into account for maidens, two year old or three year olds or even older horses trying a new distance or surface for the first time.
Rule 4. No bet if the horse is quoted at 4/1 or higher in the morning paper. Morning Lines are at the whim of the track. Many morning line horses that start out at 4/1 are bet down, sometimes to become the favorite, by post time. Air Support started at 6/1 in the Pilgrim Stakes. He had a decent shot to win, went off at 5-1 and paid $12.00 to win. Devlish Spirit in Sunday's 3rd race was ML of 6-1, bet down to be the second favorite. If you had ignored her, you would have missed out on an easy $7 win.
I totally agree with Sandra about handicapping being a skill and there are no easy winning formulas. If their were, Horse Racing would be the #1 sport in the nation. One of the best ways to learn how to handicap is to use the knowledge you have to 'cap the race, DON'T BET. Watch or review the race (online you can view most races for free at http://www.bloodhorse.com/ or http://www.calracing.com/ to see how your selections did. If you didn't have the winner, go back to the past performances and review their running lines. Even seasoned handicappers do this. Sometimes, you'll see something that you missed the first time around. Other times, you'll have no clue why the horse won. Most of the time it happens to be a longshot that everyone over looked. Like humans, horses have good and bad days.
It helps to become familiar with the strengths and weaknesses of trainers and jockeys. Like in any profession, some are better at different types of races. Certain trainers rarely send out a horse to win in it's first race, while others can almost guarantee a paycheck with first timers. Other trainers are known to be better with turf horses. The same for jockeys. Some are better at one track than others, over different courses, etc. Visit racing forums and websites, such as Dan Illman's blog at DRF, Horse Racing Nation, etc. Most handicappers are willing to share their wealth of knowledge if you ask.
Sandra, I hope you aren't upset with my extended answer. I'm not trying to "one-up" you, just fill in some blanks and add to your comments.
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I wouldn’t rely on any staking or selection system for making a profit on horse racing. You can definitely make money betting on horse racing but it’s all down to price and you need to be getting bigger odds about the horse than they should be and then you will win in the long run.
I am from the U.K. and there’s never been a better time than now to make money from horse racing as there is so much competition between bookmakers who offer much bigger odds than they used to and information for the average punter. You need to be selective with your bets and types of bets, avoid exotics and multiples and stick simple win and place bets (each-way bets in the U.K.) when you have the odds in your favour.
The most profitable bets for me which are really only applicable to the U.K. are each-way bets in certain races, international horse racing and in-running racing. Everyone has their own angle on betting and I certainly admire anyone who can make money handicapping horses themselves and form students as it takes huge amounts of work to beat the bookies edge or the pool take-out.
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